Mega Tsunami and catastrophic effects if CUMBRE VIEJA VOLCANO Palma Canary Islands Collapse

Mega Tsunami and catastrophic effects IF CUMBRE VIEJA VOLCANO Palma Canary Islands Collapse..

Large-scale mass wasting is a natural part of the evolution of volcanic islands, where deformation and indications of flank instability, such as large-scale faulting and seismic and aseismic slip are common. The Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma (Canary Islands) provides an ideal setting to address fundamental questions about the structure, evolution and stability of island volcanoes. Read full article HERE

Scientists discover how huge blocks of volcanic rock can slide off a land mass into the ocean through heat and water pressure.

There is a potential for a devastatin­g Tsunami on the East Coast of the United States, having its genesis in the Canary Islands.  If this event were to take place, it would devastate vast areas of the East Coast of America.  According to experts, it’s not a question of IF this occurs, but WHEN… Read full article HERE

Mega tsunami is meant to refer to a tsunami with an initial wave amplitude (wave height) measured in several tens, hundreds, or possibly thousands of meters. La Palma is currently the most volcanically active island in the Canary Islands Archipelago. It is likely that several eruptions would be required before failure would occur on Cumbre Vieja. However, the western half of the volcano has an approximate volume of 500 km3 (5 x 1011 m3) and an estimated mass of 1.5 x 1015 kg. If it were to catastrophically slide into the ocean, it could generate a wave with an initial height of about 1,000 metres (3,281 ft) at the island, and a likely height of around 50 metres (164 ft) at the Caribbean and the Eastern North American seaboard when it runs ashore eight or more hours later.

Potential collapse and tsunami at La Palma, Canary Islands

Simulation of the destruction caused by the volcano Cumbre Vieja

Sources: agu.orgbbsradio.comwet.kuleuven.be

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30 responses to “Mega Tsunami and catastrophic effects if CUMBRE VIEJA VOLCANO Palma Canary Islands Collapse

  1. Well you seem to have one faucet of the big story coverd and perhaps can understand what im going to tell you privately
    you see its all a game live a virtual movie that we are all actors in but we are not the actors they are entitys that step in us and wear us much like a foot wears a sock but thats just another grain of sand on the beach of this as for your earthquakes tidal waves and volcanic eruptions there “all on the cards” take alook at the full ILLUMINATI CARD deck and note when it was made and half to 3/4 have been played ,its called sigil magic and the worst are yet to be played also see it you can figure which cards are in play NOW and i can explain every card in the whole deck beyond reasonable doubt and how or what it depicts and we have past “Dual disater ” but this is yet another grain of sand as it is Biblical too the cards even depict “the beast that was ,is not and yet is” as its written “but yeahh its all true ” everything you can imagine and so much more but i will tell you this “the same that happend to all the wicked EMPIRES is at the door of this one because man thinks hes cleverer than he is and is not connected to the spirit for he has no value or worth for creation ,blinded by his own science he is.

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  2. I am curious. I have studied some what historical tsunamis. And I am curious as to when its believed that the most devistating one will actually hit the east side of N. America? The huge tsunami that soppsidly will hit all the way from ME to Fl? That really SCARES me…REALLY!!!!! I have a child and I would rather move further to the West than to be in harms way…what is your thoughts?

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    • Kimmy, odds are 50/50 for you. If you see news of La Palma, Canary Islands volcano is exploding…then split. Otherwise, remain calm and enjoy the rest of your life.

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    • Kimmy, more info out everyday on this. One things for sure all the canary islands can produce a Tsunami some will be insignificant. If you are not in a low lying area and can get at least 20 miles from coastline quickly then don’t worry just be prepared. Flank volcanoes are the culprit they have huge sections that fall very rapidly into the ocean. These however are so rare we have not experienced their effect or destructive power. I live in CA and earthquakes happen all the time here. Preparation is key instead of being scared get some friends involved with a plan have an outing and lunch after a trial run make it fun and you will be okay.

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  3. Personally, there is more time for you to learn how to spell so that you can get a good job to support your children than to worry about this freak occurrence. If it happens, you have around 9hrs to impact. If you get hit, enjoy it, because you wont even feel it. Seriously, enjoy life instead of worrying about it.

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  4. the west is no safer…earthquakes, tornadoes, drought. why worry? just live and enjoy for now. what will be will be. you can’t escape death, just prolong it (a little)

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  5. Eduardo, Portugal

    This is funny. The ones that are recomending others to enjoy life and not to worry, are the same ones that are up-to-date to all this data about tsunamis, earthquakes, etc. That leaves me thinking….if you are reading about it, getting informed about the whole subject (I´m sure you´re investigating about Planet X) that´s because, on top of the cientific curiosity that we all share, there is fear. That is nothing wrong about the nature of fear, it´s actually what keeps us alive, you know that. So Being afraid of a wall of water coming at you at high speed is somehow…scary, specially if you have kids.

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  6. fear helps you react

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  7. Eduardo, Portugal

    The predictions for catastrophic changes on the Earth´s crust are pointing to Feb 14th 2013, not Dec 21st 2012, because is the moment that Planet X is exactly between the Sun and the Earth…expecting our planet to change its rotation for at least 3 days. Damn! Right on Valentine´s Day! Meanwhile, we´re all waiting for the eminent Volvano burst at La Palma. Discovery channel explained that the high frequency tremors are the effects of the magma pushing its way through the rock, and when (if) low frequency tremors are felt, means the water/gas is making its way to the surface – and that when the eruption is very likely to start happening. Does anyone know if the latest tremors register any type of low frequency shock waves?

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    • Apparently the low frequency shock waves produce a sound which is similar to infantry sounds as explained here

      http://www.ceri.memphis.edu/compendium/

      There is a download there you will find listings of over 600 references that are related to the New Madrid earthquakes of 1811-1812.

      From what I have read is that smaller unfelt tremors cause lower frequency waves which might explain the sounds that people hear.

      Apparently the higher frequency waves are created before a more intense earthquake which animals can hear so if your hearing strange sounds around there then its probably due to smaller movements going on that are building up to something bigger!

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  8. Gee whizkers beev..How many nuclear power plants do you suppose there are along the American east coast? …I’m sure they would all be juuuust fine..no problems at all…especially when all their nuclear material is ripped back into the ocean…doomsday event.Pray it never happens or its over.

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    • Nuclear plants will have time to shut down. They are the most secure structures and will survive. Damaged yes but no Japan!

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      • actually American power plants have the worst safety records of any plants in the world, there have been several that have hit meltdown point that haven’t been reported to the public, (i did have a link but ill have to take a look for it again), its just lucky that they didn’t tip over the scale. Fukushima was a different kettle of fish, the main reactors were being decommissioned when they went off and also the control center for the coolant pumps was underground, so the tsunami flooded the control room and stopped the pumps permanently.

        Luke

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      • found the link

        http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/photos/americas-worst-nukes-20110427

        13 examples of near misses and poor maintenance

        Luke

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  9. Hey guys, Since volcaninc activity in Canary Islands is becoming more active what are your thoughts now? Personally I am quite worried!

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    • The earth is in a very volcanic period the warm temperatures seem to coincide with eruptions when this happens. If you live in a place that is virtually flat like Florida there is no safe place within 50 miles of shoreline. 8 8 hours from time of landslide is what scientists estimate before wave would hit. Just be prepared to move quickly when you hear an eruption has taken place either at El Hierro or La Palma. A submarine volcano is also rearing its head off the canary islands basically how they were formed. Only if a Tsunami is detected should you move to higher ground or inland quickly. A relative or friend who lives a way from shore would be a good start.

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    • That’s 8 hours be calm these are very rare events.

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    • Worst case scenario, it happens in the middle of the night and when we awake – it’s here. Put a weather alert radio in your bedroom. Only way you’ll have a chance to know. Have a bug-out bag ready… To include critical documents and belongings. Don’t count on insurance, such devastation will likely bankrupt insurance companies, but take a copy of your policy anyway.

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  10. Basically things have to shake really well and fall on one extreme side for a whole lot more drama and action on the directly opposing sides and possibly more.

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    • The eastern part of the volcano already fell into the ocean off the African mainland a few years ago, so the situation is more precarious for the other side. A heavy rainstorm could precipitate a slide. Same affect – tsunami.

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  11. I recently viewed a video with 7-10 day Tsunami east coast US predicted. This would be timeline November 2011. 300′ wave estimated shoreline. Over 4500 quakes around El Hierro Canary Island last few days. La Palma is also experiencing swarms. Red alert has been issued. An submarine volcano is in the active stage near the islands. Another is active off coast of Italy. US government is on alert east coast what level is not known. If you have loved one anywhere on the eastern seaboard it couldn’t hurt to warn. These events do happen look up 158 La toya bay Alaska 1743′ estimated wave devistated the shoreline. I’m not making this up wish I was! Warm weather is part of the scientific data regarding increased volcanism. Be-safe

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  12. Sorry 1958 Lituya bay Alaska Tsunami.

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  13. There has been a lot more activity starting up there again and a 3.3M occurred close to land!

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    • Asansaw, I read where the quakes were going north and are getting shallower. Because of dense rock the water stored heats forcing a break. Thus a flank volcano slamming into the ocean. I also saw a memo to the effect El Hierro worried scientists because they are concerned it could blow in two. That is why alerts are going off. Earth is in a 33 year volcanic cycle. Another reason to be prepared. Yes CA and west coast could be vulnerable. Many faults are overdue here. I have been through several large quakes and trust me they ain’t pretty.

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  14. I understand there is a potential when El Hierro erupts because of the vast water stored, being a Flank volcano “which all canary islands are ,” extreme caution is warranted. We could be on the precipice of a Tsunami not seen in modern times. Quakes on island are getting shallower and moving to north center of active zone. East coast of US get prepared tell your friends, neighbors, relatives, family members to have a plan to evacuate immediately if eruption takes place. Find somewhere to go for a day or so at least 50 miles inland. Floridians your life depends on being capable of getting away from shoreline at least 100 miles. We are in a 33 year cycle of Volcanism. Its your choice to heed and take action or! Remember to pray everyday its more powerful than you know.

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  15. IberiaNature A guide to the natural history of Spain By Nick Lloyd – Home – Contact
    Mega-tsunami returns
    September 01, 2004 Mega-tsunami returns

    That story about the Canarian mega-tsunami engulfing the US eastern seaboard has been doing the rounds again.

    The Benfield Hazard Research Centre , the British research unit responsible for the 2001 report claiming that a mega-tsunami might be triggered by the eruption of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on La Palma in the Canaries, has teamed up with scientists from the University of California.

    The researchers claim that the western flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano might be caused to cave in after an eruption, sending a huge mass of rock, twice the size of the Isle of Man, crashing into the sea and unleashing an immense tsunami which would fan out across the Atlantic at speeds of up to 800 kmph. After 10 minutes, the wall of water would have moved almost 250 kilometres. The other Canaries and the West Saharan shore would be worse affected with waves of 100 metres from crest to trough. Florida and the Caribbean would be hit by waves of 50 metres some 8 to 9 hours after the landslide. Brazil would be hit by waves as high as 40 m. The Atlantic coasts of Spain, Portugal, France and Britain, would also be affected by waves as high as 10 metres. Damage would clearly be in trillions, though its true extent is unsure as this would greatly depend on the ‘inundation distance’ – the distance the waves penetrate inland. The group expect this happen to happen sometime in the next few thousand years.
    The Guardian newspaper reported the event in jocular sensational mode (” Mega-tsunami to devastate US cities “), quoting the leader of the team, Prof McGuire who was clearly out there with his begging bowl.

    ” It’s really a worrying situation,. It will almost certainly go during an eruption. The problem is that with just a few seismometers on the island, we may not get the notice we need.The US government must be aware of the La Palma threat. They should certainly be worried, and so should the island states in the Caribbean that will really bear the brunt of a collapse “.

    Dr Simon Day from the Centre’s website was somewhat calmer though no less alarmist. ‘Anyone planning a holiday to the Canary Islands and the islanders themselves need not panic. Cumbre Vieja is not erupting so the short-term and medium-term risks are negligible.’

    What the hell does negligible mean?

    ‘ Eruptions of Cumbre Vieja occur at intervals of decades to a century or so and there may be a number of eruptions before its collapse. Although the year to year probability of a collapse is therefore low, the resulting tsunami would be a major disaster with indirect effects around the world. Cumbre Vieja needs to monitored closely for any signs of impending volcanic activity and for the deformation that would precede collapse .’

    When the original research was published in 2001, the Spanish press and scientists were heavily critical of the way it was reported. El País noted that the research group was entirely funded by an insurance company, something entirely ignored by the British press.

    “. it is hypothetical and moreover improbable, and the model would not have passed the stage of an elegant theoretical exercise if the authors had not spent a week publically airing it before publishing it tomorrow in a specialised journal. Why so much interest in publicising it? The explanation perhaps lies in the fact that the research centre is funded by an insurance company, concerned with natural catastrophes “.

    The Spanish vulcanist Juan Carlos Carracedo who was first to spot the instability caused by the 1949 cracking was horrified by the sensationalism of the British researchers, stating:

    ‘The error is modelling a phenomenon when there are no (sic) probabilities of it happening. It is as if one makes a model of what Madrid would look like after an atom bomb explosion. What interest does it have for the general population when the probability is not determined?”.

    Adding ‘In La Palma, there is on-going earthquake monitoring and absolutely no seismic activity has been detected…
    And retorting Day’s claim of geological proof of the Canaries collapsing in the past, he informs us that. ‘We are talking about a geological timescale, and the last time La Palma slipped was 560,000 years ago !”

    Unfortunately, Carracedo and the Spanish press has been silent so far on the latest research announcement. Execellent article here from 2000 by Carracedo in Spanish.

    http://www.lapalma-tsunami.com/

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  16. http://www.lapalma-tsunami.com/

    Three scientists say that half of La Palma will fall into the sea and cause a tsunami that will wipe out much of the population of the eastern seaboard of the USA.
    They are wrong.
    La Palma will not slide into the sea.
    Even if it did, it wouldn’t cause a tsunami that would reach the USA
    Why are they saying it will?
    Almost certainly to obtain funding for their own research projects.

    The worlds scientific experts have shown the “research” by Ward/Day/McGuire to be incorrect, unproven and wildly exaggerated both in the Horizon program and subsequent interviews. It is not based on scientific facts.
    New York has nothing to fear from La Palma. The island is stable. Only a substantial increase in height could cause it to become unstable and at the current rate of growth that would take at least 10,000 years,
    This news spoils the fun for the media, disaster-mongers and hazard industry, but fortunately for the supposed potential victims and the people of the Canary Islands there is nothing to worry about on La Palma.
    The content of the BBC Horizon television program has been disproved by fellow scientists and the even the BBC itself has published a partial retraction under the title “Tidal wave threat “over-hyped”
    Read the facts about the situation here:

    FACT: The Tsunami Society rightly accuses Ward/Day/McGuire of scaremongering
    The Tsunami Society has issued a press statement to counteract the effect of the scaremongering reports.
    Their aim is to correct misleading or invalid information released to public about this hazard.
    The Tsunami Society states about the Discovery Channel program:
    ‘We would like to halt the scaremongering from these unfounded reports.”
    Source: The Tsunami Society
    THEY SAY: The “The block dropped 4 meters in 1949″!.
    The suggestion that ‘the block’ of rock (25km long, 2-3km deep and 15-20km wide) suddenly sank by 4 metres in 1949 is an absurd lie. Just one look at the coastal villages of Puerto Naos, Tazacorte, El Remo, Bombilla and Playa Nueva is enough to disprove this ridiculous lie. These villages are all situated just above sea level and would have disappeared under the sea.
    The block didn’t sink, the villages didn’t sink. SOME OF THE AREAS 30,000+ INHABITANTS WOULD HAVE NOTICED.
    Ward/Day/McGuire suggest that the entire block moved 4metres vertically in relation to the rest, if that were true it would leave a very clearly visible vertical displacement fault. This evidence just does not exist. The line they suggest for the edge of the block is 40kms long. Along 37.5km of this line there is NO EVIDENCE of any movement at all. They are lying about 37.5km of the 40km line.
    Or lets measure it by surface area. The surface area of the supposed block (above the sea) is about 135km2, there is evidence of movement in area of roughly 0.25km2.
    What the real scientists reported was a surface fissure 2.5km long. A fissure is NOT a vertical displacement. The real scientists stated that there was no evidence to indicate that it was anything more than a localised surface phenomenon created by the lava flows nearby.
    If ‘the block’ dropped by 4 meters then there must be a surface crack along the 2 sides. These cracks DO NOT EXIST. There is no fault line. The suggestion that the block fell is a deliberate falsehood. They found ‘a crack in the paint’ but Ward/Day/McGuire claim that ‘the whole wall is about to fall down’ !!!
    THEY SAY: Mountain flank collapses have caused long-distance Mega-tsunamis.
    The three known instances of similar events, Krakatoa, Santorin and Lituya Bay, Alaska, created local damage but a tsunami did not reach any distant shores. Claims that the El Hierro collapse caused problems in the Bahamas are denied by scientists in the Bahamas.
    Ward/Day/McGuire ignored proven scientific facts and start the Horizon program by stating that the Lituya Bay, Alaska incident caused a mega tsunami. It didn’t, and they knew it. Lander, and P. Lockridge stated clearly that the wave was confined to a small bay and dissipated quickly in the open waters of the Gulf of Alaska.

    DAMNING EVIDENCE: Using scientific computer modelling the researchers from the Technical University of Delft tried to simulate the collapse of La Palma and an ensuing Tsunami. Even using extreme unrealistic data and ignoring many dampening effects they could not create a significant tsunami.
    The Technical University of Delft in the Netherlands is a highly respect University and Technical Research Institute.
    Their evidence leads one to compare the BBC Horizon program and the so called research by Ward/Day/McGuire with a Monty Python sketch. The only way La Palma is going to fall into the ocean is if the gigantic Monty Python cartoon foot kicks it there!
    LIE: The Horizon report suggests that evidence was gathered from the water galleries (tunnels) on La Palma.
    ALL the La Palma galleries are in the Caldera de Taburiente in the North of the island. The Caldera has a completely different structure and cannot provide valid supporting evidence.
    MISREPRESENTATION: The Horizon report shows 4 huge vertical walls of rock within the Cumbre Vieja.
    One of the graphics clearly shows 4 vertical columns of rock which, it is claimed, would trap water and create the explosion needed to trigger a landslide. The walls of rock appear to be about half a kilometer wide, at least 4 km deep and according to their own theory would need to be solid, continuous, 25km long and run parallel for all of that 25km.
    Curiously, none of these huge walls of rock were encountered by the construction workers who built the 2 road tunnels which have been drilled through the Cumbre Vieja.
    Curiously, none of the 4 walls of rock actually come to the surface ANYWHERE, not even where the island plunges down into the sea.
    Curiously, the authors own scientific report over the west side of the island categorically states that nothing is known about the structure under the Cumbre Vieja and suggests that someone investigates it. Yet they expect us to believe their speculation that these huge columns exist.
    Conclusion ? The 4 vertical walls of rock are a fabrication and only exist in the Horizon program.
    THEY SAY: La Palma will drop as one massive block into the ocean.
    All the measurements used to define the size of the possible block that might fall into the sea have been grossly exaggerated.
    The length, width, depth and speed are all fictional.
    The physical evidence for the length of the block is 4km, yet in the model they used 15 to 25 km.
    The depth is suggested as 2 to 3km below the surface. The report itself states that there is no evidence for any form of deep fracture. The figure used is fictitious and was obviously chosen because without a large figure the whole La Palma Tsunami theory is exposed as a fake.
    Width is given as 15 to 20 km. Again there is no hard evidence to support this fiction.
    The speed of the collapse used in the model is not possible under normal circumstances. An unusual form of natural lubrication would be needed to achieve the speeds used in the model. This natural lubrication is NOT present under La Palma. An immense force would be needed to trigger the movement of the so-called block and these explosive pressures could not be produced on La Palma.
    THEY CALCULATED: Their computer model says there would be a ‘disaster-movie-size wave’.
    The method of calculation used in the mathematical model is the wrong one. It is only valid for long under sea earthquakes. It is incorrect and misleading to claim that it can be applied to landslides.
    Using the correct calculations there wouldn’t have been a scare story.
    THEY SAY: La Palma has undergone a previous single total flank collapse.
    There are piles of debris off the coast of La Palma but there is no evidence that this was caused by a single event. There IS evidence that the debris is the result of a series of small landslides.
    Ward/Day/McGuire present this lie as a fact but produce NO evidence to support their falsification, which is simply because there is no evidence.
    FACT: The ‘Natural Hazard’ industry is a multimillion pound (euro/dollar) business.
    Educational and Research institutes, Insurance companies and Hazard warning equipment manufacturers have a large commercial interest in promoting a high level of interest (and investment) in hazard monitoring programs.
    Promoting scare stories is one method of obtaining funding.
    FACT: The research and TV program were funded by Insurance companies.
    The ‘research organisation’ which provided the information for the BBC Horizon program is largely funded by their parent organisation.
    Their parent organisation is an Insurance Company. Insurance sells better when their potential clients get scared.
    Previous versions of the research organisations website showed logos and references to the insurance companies who finance the hazard research. These references are no longer shown on the website.
    FACT: The Horizon program uses wonderful graphics but very few facts.
    The Horizon program uses wonderful graphics but proves nothing. The program is full of misleading suggestions and unrelated facts. For example the 4 huge vertical solid walls of rock shown in one diagram do not exist. Nothing even remotely like these walls exists. This is not a diagrammatic representation of the facts. It is pure fiction without which the hazard industry scare story would not exist.
    The BBC Horizon program is NOT A SCIENTIFIC program. It belongs on the science fantasy shelf along with Star Wars, Jurassic Park and Godzilla.
    QUESTION: Why was the film made when the scientific community knew that it was based on lies and speculation?.
    Perhaps the quest for personal fame and fortune played a role?
    McGuire’s books seem to be selling quite well. They include ‘A Guide to the End of the World : Everything You Never Wanted to Know’, ‘A Guide to the End of the World’ and ‘Surviving Armageddon: Solutions for a Threatened Planet’. These are not serious scientific works, they are science fantasy.
    A further apocalyptic report has been published in the The Halifax Travel Insurance Holiday 2003 report, yet another insurance industry financed ploy to promote insurance products.
    Maybe, as stated on the publishers description of the Apocalypse book it was ‘designed to encourage the scientific study of geo-hazard prediction and management’. Is it a coincidence that McGuire and his company make their money from geo-hazard prediction and management? No, the conclusion must be that they used the BBC Horizon program as an enormous advertisement for their own commercial products. This not permitted under the statutes of the BBC.
    Day runs tsunami workshops for the insurance industry, for example Tsunamis: past events and future risk, A Workshop for the Under 35s Reinsurance Group, organised by the Benfield Hazard Research Centre, UCL.
    McGuire even runs a ‘UCL Certificate Course: Natural Hazards for Insurers’.
    QUESTION: Did the Hazard Industry pay the BBC to show this blatant advertisement?.
    Ward/Day/McGuire work for the Benfield Hazard Research Centre. To quote their wesbite … ‘BHRC is sponsored by Benfield, the world’s leading independent reinsurance intermediary and risk advisory business.’.
    The Horizon program was effectively a 30 minute advertisement for the Hazard Industry.
    Who paid for it?
    Was it paid for out of BBC funds which come directly from the British Taxpayer?
    Did the BBC receive money to broadcast this 30 minute advert despite protests from the scientific community about its validity?
    SUSPICIOUS: TVE proudly presents and new program by ‘DISASTERMAN, Bill McGuire’.
    ‘TVE makes disaster films for Channel 5 and Sky News’ ‘So watch this week and be afraid – very afraid’.
    Those are their words not mine. The science fantasy production line continues. Maybe they will be remaking Godzilla next (because it really could happen guys!)
    FACT: The Horizon program has created millions of victims.
    The Horizon program scared millions of people on the east coast of the USA. We have had many emails from people on the American east coast who could not sleep and were considering tearing up their roots and moving to higher ground. Questions were asked in the British parliament, and taxpayers money was wasted in countering the irresponsible Hazard Industry propaganda. Tourists cancelled holidays to La Palma, some foreigners sold their (second) homes on La Palma and left the island. JMC stopped direct charter flights form the UK, German airlines reduced their charter flights to La Palma by almost 50% and a flights from Switzerland stopped completely.
    Perhaps a claim for damages would be appropriate.
    BAD TASTE: 220,000+ dead: and the Hazard industries fund-raising is working overtime (January 2005)
    It would seem that the Asian Tsunami and the loss of over 220,000 lives and displacement of 3 million people is seen as a ‘business opportunity’ by the hazard industry. They are giving interviews and making media presentations to force governments into investing in their hazard research.
    They could say no, but they don’t.
    They keep repeating their unsubstantiated La Palma Tsunami horror-stories despite the deaths. It is in sickeningly bad taste.

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  17. What a about this haarp project…. could it be used to generate a force strong enough to cause flank of the island to collapse hard enough to cause a mega tsunami??????

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  18. you wrote this almost a year ago now…I’m sure by this time you are awake to what is happening in the world and less afraid of what is going on out there. But, realize we also have our own mega fault line here that stretches all the way to the over the san andreas and all the way to texas. That will also go boom one day, there is chaos all around us. We have to make use of the time we have and make sure that we can provide for our families in what way we can. The mentally ill elites use events like this to do rituals or what have you because they believe it gives them power. Honestly I think it does, but in the end they are destined to fail as all evil does. With that, fear can be the driving force to motivate one to stand up for what they believe in.

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