NASA Hiding Data of Magnetosphere Reversal?

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The US Govt/NASA are hiding very important and even critical data pointing to the fact that Earth magnetosphere is reversing to point directly back at the Sun.

Remember that the HMO ( Heavy Mass Object) is inbound from the Leo Constellation directly opposite the Sun right now, which is more evidence that Earth is under the influence of a second heliosphere with an inner and outer reach of influence extending from the inbound HMO coming into the inner solar system for an orbit around our Sun.

Additional information:

Real-Time SWMF (Magnetosphere-Ionsphere – image browser

Plasma flow reversals at the Dayside and the origin of Asymmetric Polar Cap convenction PDF

MTOF Proton Monitor

NICT Real-Time Magnetosphere Simulation

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50 responses to “NASA Hiding Data of Magnetosphere Reversal?

  1. It may soon be time to bring back the NIBIRU discussion.
    But a one spike anomaly is Not enough evidence at this time.

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  2. Marc LeJeune

    Terrel! Your Obsessive Compulsive Delusional behavior has returned for another bout on the web to scare and insult half the American population.

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  3. The youtube guy doesn’t understand the Yaw Flip Maneuver = missing data

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  4. well the(Heavy Mass Object)is referred as a (Mini Solar System),its inbound from behind the sun,the closer it gets it will increase in speed,this reversal isnt new its going to happen sooner than later,and its going to estimated increase,so lets see what transpires from this event

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  5. The extending outreach of planet nibiru…!?!

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  6. Randall LEONE

    We think that all the influences that created this reversal must be exterior. Could the planet’s magnetic core change have an effect on solar energy. For every action you have an equal and opposite reaction. What is the lattest speculation?

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  7. Well guys, no earth axis move, no magnitude 9 earthquake… no 188 days cycle theory. Just another post creating fear among some people and a good example why you aren’t taken seriously. So, let’s see what’s the next theory is going to be.

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  8. Deborah Hart

    I have to agree with Rod on one point. It is now halfway through the 23rd. and nada damn thing happened!
    I was so looking forward to a paradigm changing event, and showed so many of my friends this info. Not only did I get nothing more than another dreadfully mundane work day, but I am lookin’ more and more like a nutjob to people that I know. Rather depressing!

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  9. Daughter of a KING

    Denial much, be prepared either way, maybe it won’t happen, better safe then sorry.There is proof of it all, 188 days cycle of earthquakes, proven by earthquakes themselves, solar pick up, axis change, even the airports have been closed due to it, so I will keep you in mind while say the Chaplet of Divine Mercy, even though I am not Catholic, God has given insights and understanding of this and future events to come, it is wise to watch,learn, and research this for yourself. I know something is going to happen, keep eyes upon Rome and the Vatican , not so much Israel. They all play a major part, and do not trust the Media, mainstream tele or radios. I feel sorry for those given the truth and still refuse. May God have Mercy on us, and the whole world for ignorance.

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  10. It´s easy to adulterate the data in order to present the results intended and this is not even a bit cientific. We are given just some examples of earthquakes in order to enhance the 188 days cycle theory but for this theory to be correct some other earthquakes are forgotten (ex: June 24, 2011 – 7.2 Fox Islands; July 6, 2011 – 7.6 Kermadec Islands). Unfortunately some people are just not used to use their brains and others take advantage of their innocence.

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  11. Deborah-
    I wouldn’t say not a damn thing happened…..we did have a 7.6 in Mexico two days prior to his predicted date. He may not be exactly accurate, but it is a theory that I think needs more research. Some are so quick to dissmiss….did you not watch it all or read all of it? He gave a window of 1 to 11 days I believe….would have to go back over myself to be exact, but you get the picture. Its somewhere to start. Life as we know it, is and has been changing. Its time for everyone to wake up. If there is a possibility….even slight….it should be researched don’t ya think? I do, if we could possibly “be more prepared” why not look into it more.

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  12. Conspiracy doesn’t seem to have any boundaries, for anything and everything there is a question mark?? If i consider mexico EQ was man made (TPTB) , then what about those previous ones? Should i write off our mother nature?? Im eager to learn about the last natural earthquake we had on our earth (if any?). . . . Im willing to learn. http://scienceray.com/earth-sciences/geology/the-five-worst-killer-earthquakes-in-history/

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  13. People believe what they need to believe for what ever reasons. In this case, just remember that the data IS NOT correct. As mentioned, some earthquakes were curiously forgotten and when one has to forgot the data in order to impose his theory no credit can be given.

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  14. Deborah Hart

    Sybil, you are absolutely right! I was hoping for more!

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  15. i hope this is the last article you people from behind the scene use from Terral03 as reference work , if not , I’ll be in doubt about the purpose of this site , if is about search for true or disinformation . here a link , who really it’s Terra03 , check by your self and br the judge .
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aPD8e9Rz_MA

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  16. Sybil,
    Yes one in Mexico and one in Chile and…. what does these earthquakes has to do with this theory. Nothing! These are the same guys that argued behind elenin there was a planet X or a dwarf star. Really? If you want to research, try some credible theories like the different types of radiation the sun is releasing, try the photon belt or the simple increasing water weight on our planet due to the polar melting. 188 days earthquake theory lolol
    Open your eyes, internet can be very useful but there are a lot of crap instigated by mentally disorder people that just spread ignorance and fear.

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    • Rod.
      Funny you should mention that.
      I have yet to find any fault with their theories, other than formula’s based on faulty mathematical data for which no one can have the correct data to begin with, so extrapolation was used.
      This includes the whole planet X behind Elenin thing.
      As far as I have been able to determine there was an still IS a HMO Heavy Mass Object which pushed elenin into the interior, which aligned with Elenin at times, and is still on a far more distant approach.
      You dont seem to have any thing to offer to the contrary, just laughter and snarky-ness.
      The timing of the southern Quakes May or may NOT have any thing to do with the 188 time table. I have as much proof to offer you that it does as You have to offer that it Doesnt.
      Its not for You to determine the sum of evidence and conclusion there of for Any other person. My advice to Sybil is to research for herself, and draw her own conclusions, rather than let some one else do the Thinking For her.
      Thanx for Your contribution, I am ALSO into researches on the other subjects you have spoken of. the water weight dosnt change, it merely shifts placement. Do try not to spread your Own brand of ignorance and fear to far, hmm?
      ~ VARAKIENEN.

      Sybil.
      Consider all things, but Think for they self.
      It is a growing belief that to an extent, our conscious thoughts influence our Own realities and thier outcomes.😉

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  17. As I stated, people believe what they want or need to believe so do not try to give the impression that I pretend with my words for people not to think or research for themselves. The all point is exactly for people to think and do their own research without being influenced by crazy theories. As for this one, is as crazy as a bunch of others for it stated, for example, the cycle was 188 days (not 187 or 189) and as proof it mentioned a few earthquakes but other were left behind. Why? Because if it were included the 188 days theory would be wrong. Do your homework and you’ll find it easy to conclude that this theory is a laugh.
    As for your evidence of a HMO, well, we are all curious so let’s ear it. Of course you wouldn’t mind to share those evidences. Oddly, thousands of amateur astronomers seem to find nor share any of those evidences. Yeah, yeah, elenin was not a comet, it was a alien starship… wait, elenin was not a comet, it was a planet… no, a dwarf star. Just finish the speculation and share those evidences.
    As for water, it is as easy as 1 plus 1, higher volume, higher weight and as you know higher salinity, also higher the weight. Since you have a higher massive amount of cold water in liquid state, the weight is algo higher and this as an impact on the tectonic plates.

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    • Oh Rod. I wasn’t commenting on Elenins nature, Just the HMO which is likely to have moved and influenced its movement. If you do your own home work, Im sure you’ll get up to speed on Elenins odd course and trajectory changes. As to what Elenin it Self actually was, I guess we’ll never know. We have no proof of its true nature to support that it was a comet, an asteroid, a artificial object, or other. But Lots of evidences to support Each.
      I dont feel a need to do home work for those whom have not done it for them selves, but whom instead dismiss theories and evidences out of hand just because they dont suit your own view points at the time.
      As for the 188 theory. I have already mentioned that they are doing calculations based on faulty data. The theory “Behind” these beliefs is sound enough, But unfortunately with out exact infallible data which No one can have if they do not have access to billion dollar science labs and Infra super telescopes etc etc can gain, Such data can not be acquired.
      Mainstream sources of data and information are compromised by those whom control it and do not want others having it.
      In the end, its not possible for us common folk to set times, dates, locations, measurements, ahead of time.
      Its why they keep failing.
      Mind you, the 188 theory has yet to actually fail.
      Did the home work you see. Still Not laughing.
      “Amateur” astronomers dont have access to the kind of equipment that can out and out confirm the position trajectory, mass or composition of the HMO.
      But, they have come up with Tremendous evidences despite this that the HMO exists and is inward bound by its effects on things they Can detect and measure. Again, this is where You need to do your Own home work lad.
      At this point, Pondering as to weather or not the HMO exists, is right up there with pondering weather or not UFO alien encounters exist.
      Weather or not Big-foot exists, and so on.
      We all realize they Do, the evidence is now past overwhelming.
      Yet, None of it can be proven as yet.
      this doesn’t make it exist any less.

      Hope that helps you out. Get back to me when your home work is up to speed and we’ll continue the chat.
      Be well.
      ~VARAKIENEN.

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  18. Well, just remember sometimes things are just what they are and there’s nothing else out there. In Elenin’s case it’s the same principle, just a comet that was exactly that… a comet. And comets, like several other objects, are due to have their orbit changed from other objects. It’s strange isn’t it? lol. And to change it you don’t need a massive, mysterious, secret HMO. Do you have any evidence that would state Elenin was not a comet, or that there is that secret HMO that changed Elenin’s orbit??? Since you claimed that indeed you have those evidences (lots of it) and since you claimed that amateur astronomers do not have access to the kind of equipment that allows to determine several aspects of the HMO, then you must be a professional astronomer and you must have the evidence and the equipment. So, don’t talk about lots of evidence… share it!!! If you don’t, well, either you don’t have it and you just enjoy cheap talk, or you have it but the evidence is compromised by the one that controls it… yes, you, and if so it puts you in the exactly same place that the ones you accuse of controling the information.
    As for 188 days cycle theory, it seems you insist in forgetting several other earthquakes that would lead to the theory’s failing. Why would you do that? And as presented, on March 22, 2012 we should have had an 9.0 earthquake that would move the earth axis by 5 inches. Well, where was it? Oh, I forgot… there wasn’t any! I rest my case lol. But still, even knowing that there were earthquakes that were not mentioned and that no 9.0 earthquake occurred on March 22, you think the theory has not failed. Lol

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    • Oh Rod.
      I see you haven’t done your Own home work yet and are looking to cheat off my papers.
      Did I Not mention in my last letter that I don’t do others Home work for them?
      Perhaps the problem is that you have in your time, learned some details, IE been spoon fed what Others want you to know, and swallowed it accepting it as gospel, but Haven’t actually Learned how to Learn or research for your Self.
      Ill help you with that, and Then send you back to the books so to speak, Mm’K?
      When one wants to learn about a topic or subject matter, one does not merely look at random data alone.
      One does not also go Into research with an agenda in mind, such as, Lets look at the notion of DISSproving some thing.
      What one is actually supposed to do is approach from several sides with Out deciding the out come before all evidences are in.
      For instance, Lets take the HMO.
      One should, seek out evidence that shows it does not exist. But NOT stop there. Then one should find all the evidence that Supports the notion that it Does exist. But Not stop there.
      Then one finds the evidences that support other theories as well, no matter how radical sounding they may be.
      Example being, that its a huge hyperdimensional space craft that isn’t fully in our plane of existence at all times, etc. (which I my self don’t personally believe, but then Im just using it as a possible example)
      Theeeeennnnn one begins to compare the notes objectively. ObJectively Mind you I said. With No pre-concluded decisions and notions as yet.
      One compares the data, which WILL force you to ask all New questions that you never realized you would be forced to ask at the beginning of the research. and see what avenues they take you and continue to ask and investigate.
      See how this works?
      In the end, you may come to realize that its not Worth writing any thing in stone as a solid fact, because new evidences or data can change former conclusions. And as New information is Always coming in, no conclusion should be final.
      I’m so glad I could help you with that mate.
      Now, as I said before, and wont even bother to say again…. Back to yer studies. No one is going to do your work For you.
      Tell you what, Ill give you a starting point even.
      Lets look Else where on this site, and read every comment on every thread under every category that covers, Elenin, Alignments, planet-X, Nibiru, Tyche. Ancient aliens videos in reference to the subject matters, etc, etc.
      I assure you during the debates, you will find a great many details, evidences, and links to data that will help you on your way.
      Get back to me when you have caught up, K?
      Now remember, Nooooo skipping over things, that’s Poor research methodology, and you May be quizzed. 😉
      Talk atchoo later lad, now Off with you.
      Hugz’n shit.

      ~ Varakeienen.

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  19. Man, I know ( and a lot of people also knows) a place where you would be happy lol. Just an idea to share with you although you won’t understand it… an ideia, a knowledge not shared is not even knowledge. That’s ok, you must be happy like that and that’s important. Try to not claim that you have evidence of a bunch of things and when asked for those evidences you keep on the defence with a so sadly argument that you don’t do others work. Done with you lol.

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    • Yeah, I was pretty sure you had nothing to bring to the table.
      Glad That’s been cleared up.
      As for my own evidences, I already pointed them out to you. It was up to You to find them and catch up. You see, many of those posts on this site that I pointed you to have My own links and info posted.
      But you were never looking to learn some thing new here, You only seemed to be interested in telling Sybil what to believe or not to believe in, rather than presenting Your OWN evidences on the matter to support a case, and allow her to think and make conclusions for her self.
      I Police that shit on this site!
      Now, I go through this about once every month or so on this or some other site.
      Some talking monkey pops up with a know it all stance and only a smidgeon of the work done to back it, gets into a debate with me, and expects Me to do all the work for nothing, and provide what ever they demand.
      The problem here is that I Used to do just that.
      I used to debate and supply links, data, papers, witness testimony and evidence time and again, only to find that the person with whom I was debating with, really just wanted to hear the sound of their own voice and never bothered to look into the links and materials I put up.
      Time and again I wasted my time and effort doing the research FOR them so they could see the other side of the argument and then they just didn’t bother to look at it, blew it off, and stuck to their original claims like it was Gospel.
      Really, every month or so for some 10 years now.
      a few years ago, I said No More.
      By then I was able to “smell” the closed minded mouth pieces as they came in, and set Them to do the research them selves rather than waste others, or more importantly MY time.
      There isnt a regular long term person here that Doesn’t know I really do have shit loads of data to support my position’s. lol. They have been around long enough to see examples.
      And that’s whats happened here.
      You had nothing to back your own materiel and didn’t even try.
      As expected.
      Now I wait another month or so for the next one. there’s always a next one. 😉
      Fair well good Troll. (G.S.M!)
      ~ VARAKIENEN.

      I hope this serves to help others whom come up against the same crap.

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  20. Varakienen and Rob, neither one of you is correct, and the only one willing to admit it is Varakienen. The point here is, NO ONE KNOWS for sure, but unless your sources are main stream media you only have the information that has been “authorized” for human consumption. I didn’t even know about Planet X/Nibiru, comet Elenin, or the very simple fact that for “unknown” reasons the inner solar system’s comet’s all started heading towards the sun starting in 1960’s or 1970’s. Tell me why??

    LINK http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/Animations/Animations.html

    — this is the 2002 version is this one “Animated GIF (401 x 401 pixels, 1.2 MB)”

    and this is the 2011 version Animated GIF (961 x 961 pixels, 2.7 MB)

    these are not the links, so go to above website and then click on these 2 animations. It shows something like a pattern of the comets being flung from the outer solar system to the Sun. Why? You tell me. I don’t know.
    Why did NASA claim they made a mistake on calculations on the Solar Activity for 2012-2013? Why have the Jupiter and Saturn both shown increased storm and temperature increases? Why does the Sun’s corona appear to be 2-3 times bigger than normal? Name as many purposes that you can think of for H.A.A.R.P? Noticed we have broken almost every record in the world for rain fall, drought, wildfires, hurricanes, tornadoes (and even where and when tornadoes occur, like one in Sacramento CA, in February????) That’s normal, or can be explained by a blanket statement like “Its’s Global Warming”, anyone that has done the slightest amount of research, can tell you, it should be called Global Changes, not warming.

    Did you know that Newtons calculations are unable to predict the precession of the equinoxes without slight errors that have to be “fixed” to make the math work? Guess what makes the math work? A binary star, in a 24,000 year cycle. The 188 day earthquake cycle, let me explain. The object heading near our solar system, last I read they estimated it was going to get as close as 22,000,000 million miles from Earth. It accelerates as it gets closer to us, as well as the Sun accelerates towards it. Imagine when you were a kid and your big brother would grab your arms and spin in a circle and the faster he went, the higher off the ground you went, it’s just like that. When the point of super connection when “it” locks on to either the Sun, or the Earth, or both. That is when SHTF. “””” IF THIS IS REAL!!!!! “””” there isn’t anything we can do, but did you know around 80% of ALL stars are in a binary system? So, that alone means that there is roughly a 20% chance we don’t have a companion star in our system. LOOK IT UP. I DARE YOU. IT DOESN’T HURT AT ALL!

    This is my reasoning for the earthquakes that don’t fall in the 188 day cycle, name me any other time in recorded history where 5 of the largest earthquakes known to man occurred in a 9 year period???? 9.1 Sumatra 2004, 9.0 Honshu Japan 2011, 8.8 Maule, Chile, 8.6 Northern Sumatra Indonesia 2005, 8.5 Southern Sumatra, Indonesia??? Any thoughts??? The largest EVER recorded was a 9.5 in Chile in 1960. When your having all these gigantic earthquakes that slow the rotation down of the Earth by millionths of a second, and tilt the axis of it rotation, energy and mass have to re-adjust themselves. So all the other large earthquakes that don’t fit into the cycle are the other earthquake’s waves rebounding across the globe. The Earth is like a giant misshapen bell, with multiple moving cracks that reshape the face of the globe on a pretty constant pattern. What we have witnessed in the past 50 years, but mainly the past 9 years has been unprecedented in the geologic records. Everything in the solar system has patterns within patterns, within even more patterns. The current pattern suggests “something else” is involved. What that “something else” is remains to be seen. Just because you can see something doesn’t mean you can’t feel it, or see it’s affect. Radiation is a perfect example, unless you have a Geiger counter, radiation isn’t noticeable, but it will affect you. Asbestos is another example, you won’t know until it’s to late. It’s better to have a gun, and not need it, then to need a gun, and not have it. Pretty simple logic should show you, if NASA or JPL or the government knew what is coming, what could they possibly tell you that would ensure your safety? Nothing, zilch, nada, why?? because they don’t even know. When they find out if “it” is real, they are powerless to stop it, or help you survive. NASA Administrative Director Charles F. Bolden recently sent an email asking all NASA employees to “be prepared” and to have “a plan of readiness”, to know where you and your family meet in a situation “where your all spread out all over the place” It was only for NASA employees, why?? Why did NASA shut down the space program? Why did they accidentally run out of coolant for the NEOWISE satellite after 10 months in space?? A 300 million plus satellite goes up to search for “infrared targets” and runs out of coolant in 10 months and they shut it off. IRIS or IRAS I can’t remember went up in 1983 and scientists claim they found “something” that seems like a 10th planet, articles are written in Popular Science, The New York Times, and then just like that it’s black listed, never to be mentioned again by mainstream media, unless to debunk it? Tell me why the Sun’s magnetism has decreased by 30% in the past 30 years, but for some strange reason NASA made a mistake and thought this Solar Maximum would be no big deal, then 2 years later they come out and say “whoops, we scientists made a mistake, some of our data was off by a factor of 20), that is no small mistake, and it can’t be attributed to failing to carry the “2.” I have been watching the Sun online since the launched the Stereo Behind and Stereo Ahead satellites in 2006(I think), and it has shown a massive increase in the ultra-violet, infra-red, intensity, and coronal mass ejections. You tell me why? NASA put out the fact they thought the Sun would go in to what’s known as a “Minimum Phase” or a lack of activity all the way back in 2008, then hold the phone we were wrong, whoops. It was a miscalculation, your going to believe that the smartest known people on the Earth are going to make a simple mistake like that, as Americans we have spell checker, you would only assume they have some sort of math checker, or a friend checks the math, or I don’t know, maybe a whole department checks it and it’s still wrong, yeah that is the most logical reason. It’s because the Earth is being affected by something, is it Elenin?, is it a HMO? Is it a dark star? Is it a brown dwarf? WHO THE F CARES WHAT IT IS. THE SIMPLE FACT IS, IT IS. Believe it or not, we are experiencing some serious changes. Ignorance will not save you. I hope all this is a very strange dream, but I don’t think it is. Another idea put forth by a very intelligent person, is the Sun itself will take care of us in what is known as a “KILL SHOT” a perfectly aligned solar flare of massive scale heading straight at us. Another is we are entering the galactic shock wave and it’s intensity only increases as we approach 2013-2014, or even another where out in our path is a large gamma ray bubble we will travel through, or some sort of Electro-magnetic field. NASA itself puts out most of this information, but most articles end with, “we need more information”, or “this is so new we don’t have an explanation” We are so new the the patterns of Earth and our solar system, it’s like we have only read the 1st paragraph of a 9000 page book, and think we can tell what the ending is going to be. NO ONE KNOWS, but since no one knows for sure, YOU MUST DO YOUR OWN INVESTIGATING and RESEARCH. Otherwise you might as well be the groundhog that sticks it’s head out once a year to guage the weather. I guess that gives you a 50-50 chance, good enough for most lazy Americans. PROVE ME WRONG, MAKE ME STARE AT PROOF THAT THIS IS ALL BS, UNTIL YOU CAN DO THAT, read, search, cross reference, fact check, but don’t assume because it sounds crazy, that it is. What do you think the 1st people to tell regular Americans that we were planning to go to the Moon was? I bet most thought they were crazy. Remember the crap Nicolaus Copernicus went through when he tried to tell the world the truth that the Sun, not the earth was the center of the universe??? Nicolaus Copernicus wasn’t taken seriously until the proof was undeniable. In this case when the proof is undeniable , it’s already to late. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU, I HOPE THIS CAN ALL BE EXPLAINED AWAY AND WE ARE ALL HORRIBLY WRONG, TRUST ME I DON’T WANT TO BE RIGHT, UNTIL THEN GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY AND LET US ALL ENJOY WHATEVER AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAVE LEFT.

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  21. Man you really need some treatment. I’m going to waste this last post with you and that’s it and I’m going to make it very simple and clear in order for you to understand.
    1- I did not try to influence anybody thoughts. If you know how to read, I have pointed several times that anyone should do its own research and also be aware that the internet can be very useful but there’s also a lots of garbage;
    2- I mentioned that the 188 days cycle theory is wrong because a) it stated that on March 22, 2012 a 9.0 earthquake would occurred and would move the earth axis by 5 inches; b) the theory left behind several earthquakes and I gave examples, so it manipulates the data. Considering these two facts, the theory is wrong. If you can’t understand this… lol
    3- I mentioned that there are other theories that are considering the possibility of the increasing earthquakes have been caused by a photon belt ou the different radiation the sun is releasing or still the huge volume of water on the planet due to the melting of polar ice. All this are possibilities, you are the one bragging with proofs.
    4- Also stated that elenin theories were wrong and the comet was just that… a comet. You have proofs that states Elenin was something else? Fine, great. Just asked you to present it. Did you? No, you just argued that if people want proof, people should research for themselves. Lol what a cientific agument.
    As for this last one, you ask for proofs that the comet were just a comet and claim that these eventual proofs were manipulate by the mainstream. Ok, maybe they were, let’s assume that. But you claim to have other proofs. Ok, share it or else you are just as bad as the ones you accuse.

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    • @Rod

      Warning: Personal attacks like ‘you really need some treatment’ are not allowed,
      read our TOU

      Admin

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    • Rod. It is a Rare thing that I ever use the word proof, because I have long since come to realize that proof to one person does Not constitute what qualifies as proof to another. Thus, I continually maintain that Proof is subjective. Proof is in the eye of the beholder.
      I prefer the word evidences.
      Which, Have been provided for you. All you have to do is go look to where I have directed. I called it home work. No one else will do it for you.
      Now, from this point on we are clearly beginning to become abusive.
      I’ld like to tone it back and return to the subject matter actually at hand.
      Ive done as much as I am willing for you. Take what I have taught you in How to conduct research and run with it mate. I wont be addressing this again. Its become a distraction for this thread.
      Be well.
      ~ VARAKIENEN.

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  22. wat up… who really cares wat happens i mean wat if the world just explodes killing everyone for the 2012 apocolypse on december 21 2012 then wat haha just sayn dont sit around worring about wats gona happen..

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  23. marina pratt

    What do you need Rod? Do you need pin point, fool proof, when it is projected to happen, it does happen? There are way to many variables floating out there for pin point accuracy. Your position is absolutely the norm. I see it all the time. I do it myself..I chuckle when I realize I am in a big hurry and “nature” is just not on my time schedual. We are dealing with math here but it appears some of the elements we were not aware existed are creating a new math.

    I believe it was pointed out that we are really new to this celestial game. With out our new technologies, we would not have a clue. Everything is a theory. While there is some “new” information, it is admittedly not complete. Just the change in the behavior of the sun has come as a complete surprise to a whole lot of folks who were SURE they had it figured out. The science guys are pretty shaken at this point. I don’t believe they actually know what is going on. I keep seeing new releases from the public relations folks at NASA about a new discovery here and there and then they shut up tight, remove data and hunker down.

    There are, however other signs out there that can be a tip off that something is going on that noone has control of. Look at the “chicken little” chatter. It is every where. You remember “chicken little” – right? That was the little feathered guy who, while walking along, got hit with a flying stone or something. He was stunned. Not being able to understand what a stone was doing flying through the air like that, he simply assumed that it was part of the sky. Thus he became filled with panic but because of his brave and heroic nature, he ran back to the flock shouting, “The sky is falling! The sky is falling!” Now, it appears that was not a really good choice. Seems that the flock, suddenly awakened from a comfortable life style, became equally terrified and don’t ya know, the whole barn yard was soon a scene of creatures running in wild circles, screaming to the sky.

    What chicken little did not know was, the electromagnetic connection his brain had to the electricomagnetic matrix generated by the planet its self, had been disrupted. Somewhere on this information site, a man who lives in Australia witnessed exactly this effect in the huge flock of birds in his area. They had just experienced a “rain” of spiders…you may have seen news reports about it here and there..it was quite spectacular. As this man sat on his porch steps, he listened to this flock of birds screaming in terror because they could not find their bearings to fly away but rather found themselves wildly flapping in circles. At the same time, the animals in the area were putting up a hell of a noise as they too searched for an escape but found none. He said it was the erriest thing he has ever experienced.

    Over the last 10 or 20 years, it has been discovered that homing pidgions are getting lost and dolphins and various whale groups have beached themselves without the ability to change direction…These are clues that something electromagnetic is going on..all of these animals are equiped with sonar devices of one sort or the other to get them through their migration chores.

    In addition humans too are so equipped. While we have a way to communicate information to one another, many of us are acutely affected by the electromagnetic enviornment in which we live. Some of us are unable to get past our own emotional responses in order to understand the intricate information we create with our multi-tasking brain function. Some times it seems even those who have spent their lives searching through information and trying to figure out how things work, are blind sided..We often just don’t see stuff, especially stuff we have not previously established information about. We, however, are much more adaptable than those birds I spoke of above. When confronted with a threatning situation, we allow ourselves to stand back and try to figure out how to fix it or change it or at the very least, survive it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not work.

    Thus it is, with all of the variables involved with this galactic movement we are experiencing, our lack of information/science is a complete surprise. Humans just want to go home and have a cold drink while they stare at a wall with moving pictures on it. We are coddled creatures. Like the animals around us we are dependent on our routine. We are emotional creatures who, like chicken little, scream loudly when something happens that does not fit into our comfort zone. Thus one can see on a daily basis the wild “end of the world” theories filled with self blame or herd blame..We are alive, in a skin we are familiar and comfortable in…we are terrified that we will be helpless and victimized.

    When making references to the mysterious universe, even those humans who completely believe in a higher power find themselves compelled to make attempts to ‘figure it out”. For all of that, there are those who just don’t want to be bothered with stuff they cannot see and have no control of. These become the deniers. If it is outside of the familiar realm they are used to,they ignore it, while at the same time telling others it cannot exist because if they don’t know anything about it, How can it exist?

    These are the folks who do not allow flexibility or flaws in any theory or stated observation. This is also a tool that is used by folks who don’t want other people to KNOW something they feel might cause ‘herd’ panic–“the chicken little effect.” This has been the position of space exploration scientists since the beginning of the space agency. There is a collection of folks who call themselves the “Heritage Foundation”. Years ago, they found a big stone and on it they carved the words, “Don’t tell them!” The THEM they were talking about was US. They were afraid–very afraid. As they dealt with new information about possible civilizations on other planets in our solar system they designed a way to ‘debunk’ the information. Now they are faced with what appears to be a threat to organic life on our planet…Now, you have to know, they are going to fudge the information in some fashion. They, in the meantime, feel the need to survive so the civilization on this planet does not have to start carving arrows out of stone again. Thus, if you watch the information feed closely, you will see efforts being made to not only save themselves, but others they believe will be able to make it through what ever challenge they see so that they can bring their skills to the enormous effort of reestablishing a ‘civilized’ world one more time.

    Thus, it becomes important for us ‘just plain folks’ to stay on top of what ever probability is awaiting us. And thus, the continual litany, “DO YOUR HOMEWORK.”

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  24. Marina, I agree with most of what you wrote, especially that something electromagnetic is going on that affects not only animals but humans as well. Therefore, I suggested that the proton belt that was discovered can be related. Not saying that it is, but it can. As well, also suggested that the behaviour of the sun and therefore a different type of radiation could affect both animals and humans. What seems to be more acceptable is that we are electromagnetic beings and any variation on electromagnetic particles indeed affects us.
    However, what I was trying to highlight was the errors of this 188 days cycle theory. I don’t understand the meaning of giving credit to a theory that misses the facts, either on purpose or not. And as I stated, this theory looses credit when doesn’t mentioned several earthquakes. Why? Because if it did mentioned, there wouldn’t be any 188 days cycle theory. Yet people believe what they want and what they need to believe.

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  25. marina pratt

    @Rod->I personally see the 188 day cycle math as a bit of a symphony. I don’t know that is necessairly incorrect, but rather, incomplete. It does not take variables into play from what I can see. One of its larger flaws in the apparent disregard for the design of the active plate movements all across the planet..big flaw to say the least. As can be seen by the dutchsinse sismagraph readings, all sorts of things are going on all over the place, all the time.

    None the less, I do think he has hit on something–I am just not exactly sure what it is. When I saw that New Madrid figure come up I nearly fell out of m chair. It is completely right on according to the sismo-reads. I will have to go back and see what his comments are on the huge amount of “pop-offs” that take place everywhere..but at the same time, his information corralates to the US east coast in many ways.

    He was clear when he called this a theory. He never said this was a fact. It is just another piece to the earthquake puzzle and it was done in the hope that some kind of quasi-prediction ability is found as an early warning system. It is one more piece to a puzzle and he speaks to that in his own way. He does not bring the other external influence data into the formula but he does point out the areas where earthquakes are a regular event. It appears his effort is an attempt to isolate what the regularity is.

    It is ok that this theory does not appeal to you. On the other hand, I do suggest you not eliminate it from the pile of things to note on your mental desk. Simply allow it and when you see a flaw, note it and then look to see the why of that observed flaw. That is how science is done. It is mathimatical at its base and then structures of observation are built upon that foundation.

    I guess that is what I meant by the doing your home work remark. When I got into astrology, I was one major skeptic…I approached it to prove how wrong it was. I did that for about 5 years and then I began to see that my list of pro and con was taking shape and I began to approach the difficulty I was having as a matter of language rather than math. The math is – as I said to a friend recently – written in stone…At the same time, the math has had to be adjusted to some of the new physics that have come into being as the result of our technology.

    I would recommend you look for lectures by Nassim Haramein on UTUBE. He was an eye opener for me. If you do go there, let me know what your thinking is on his stuff. I would love to get your feed back. David Wilcox is another I would recommend..he is fun to watch..both of them are actually. It takes science into a place where high and dry are trumped by OH, I GET IT! My sincere support to you – Marina – Gotta go feed the cats-7:59am est – 3/28/12-USA

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  26. I believe you meant David Wilcock🙂 I know both Wilcock and Haramein. I can also suggest to you Drunvalo Melchizedek or a great book “The Morning of the Magicians” by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier.
    Well, neither did I state that it was a fact, always said it is a theory. But even a theory must begin with some kind of a correct assumptions or it will fail even as a theory. Look, science is not made by starting with the answers with need to give responses to a question, i.e., a theory is basically a hypothesis and the hypotheses can’t be manipulated to originate the thesis we pretend. So, the point I tried to emphasize was that the theory of 188 days has flaws by failing to consider several earthquakes and I gave examples. Simple as this🙂

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    • Now we’re talkin Rod.
      i can agree with you that 188 has some flaws.
      But again, Its only as good as the data that started the math.
      What I mean is that the symptom/phenomenon definitely has Cycles.
      But they are not exact, and some times skip. And other gravitational forces some times get in the way or contribute and pull the effect off course, so to speak. Many of these things were Not configured into the equation.
      This doesnt mean that 188 has No merit at all. What it means is that its a work in progress that has shown potential.
      Its nice to see you down in the realm of level headed debate, btw, rather than a tirade.
      Be well.
      ~ V.

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  27. marina pratt

    Getting to know you–this is very cool..and how right you are…I was a bet put off by the 188 day business myself…I am going to have to go back and look more closely at this guys wording.

    Now, I gotta tell ya, I just read something that made the hair on the back of my neck stand up so I am not very focused at the moment. I suspect we are dealing with a factor –elf waves–that noone is making allowances for. I will come back with that – I have to make sure I get the link correct..very interesting…I have some major questions and opinions on this matter so I will bring it here in hopes all our friendly ‘researchers’ here can go a digging..although, I suspect caution is required..I will be back..Marina

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  28. Well, that’s the problem I have been insisting. The data is incomplete. As it’s conceived it seems like something like “ok, i’m going to determine a 188 days cycle, so I’ll grab some data here and some data there, let’s cook it and… yeah, eureka, it works”. Really? Really? (man, i’m sounding like the Mizz lol). So, what about start considering all the data, for example, all earthquakes above an X magnitude and then let’s see if there is any cycle at all. Otherwise, anyone can create any theory, a 10 days theory, a 30 days theory, etc, etc.

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  29. Ok Marina, let’s see what you are cooking🙂

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  30. marina pratt

    I got this on my ->2012 indy info-lrc-news group->laura Tyco -> it was taken from -> Before its News – author ->Zen Gardner who had posted on Dutchsince face book page…The title is ->Pine Gap and the Australia Quake -> I think the date it was posted was 3/23/12 but I am not sure. The quake was on that date–When 2012 posts, it is a single article – I had this filed under earthquakes and the date I forwarded it to a friend was 3/23/12- But if you can get to Dutchsinse facebook page you might be able to find it there..

    What this subject matter has to do with is a super secret military base in the middle of Australia that is generating ELF waves from a unit they have drilled very deeply – a mile? don’t remember..the reason given has to do with submarine communication but I fear this is much more complex. Now, I must tell you I am having major issues with some of the conversation having to do with “world gov” and the like…My interest is the fact that an earthquake in the 5.0 range is not a common factor in this continent. My Australian friend may now have an answer to the the bird behavior he spoke of during the sun burp. The spiders as well…When you read the complexities of this base, let me know what your reaction is. Sincerely, Marina–God I hope you find it. I don’t know how else to get it here. My lack of tech knowledge is legend…

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  31. Maybe it has something to do with this Mayaartefact:
    http://i39.tinypic.com/wjgkzk.jpg%20http://i39.tinypic.com/wjgkzk.jpg~~V
    Namaste
    Nobody

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  32. marina pratt

    I need to correct that debth figure–it was 5 miles down–and

    Nice to see you mr. nobody…I was just thinking about you the other day. I hope all is well..Sincerely, Marina –and Yes, the artifact is exactly what we saw the sun do that day not all that long ago..Oh, boy! 5:0pm est-3/26/12 usa

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  33. Cindy Chailland

    Not only you, but all of you who are posting this information may very well be reliable, but the weird music that you and many others use make it seem like a farce.

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    • Yeah I kinda have to agree there.
      On oh so Many home made little documentaries and the like, people insist on putting there own taste in music attached.
      Uber weird music, and metal or death metal often make me stop watching altogether. Some times I dont even bother to cut the sound, but rather, saddly, just Judge the moron whom added it, and turn the whole thing off.
      Yeah, Im bad that way.
      ~VARAKIENEN.

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  34. even tho NASA may be hiding something it just shows that if they’er hiding that who knws wat else ther hiding. al that bs about FEMA and wat not it seems to me that ther just trying to get our attention on that instead of wat really matters.

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  35. marina pratt

    Hello! What music have I missed..are we talking about content or real music here..?

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  36. Cindy Chailland

    Well, if one plays music to cover up the content, what does that mean? It just gives skeptics a reason to discredit.

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  37. @marina
    Hello marina. everthing is on a good way in my life at the moment. hope you are ok too. the pic is strange, i was looking the last days if i can find a good source for the so called mayan artefact…but i found nothing. maybe it is a hoaxartefact…anyhow the thing are changing fsterand faster…something is going on. by the way i found a interessting fruit which is very good against different types of cancer:
    http://graviolasecret.com/
    maybe you know somebody who is interessted in natural medicine…;)
    Namaste
    Nobody
    PS: I like the hinduword namaste very very much since i know its meaning, and here you can read about the meaning:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namaste

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  38. marina pratt

    Well, good morning!!! I have been thinking about you. Yes, I know some folks who might be interested in your natural medicine suggestion. I will post it on my facebook.

    So, here is a question for you..Is there any chance you might have a clue why 20,000 people are flooding into that little French town, to climb a mountain, to wait for the UFOS to pick them up. Vara said he has searched for a link or a clue and has not be able to find one. I went looking yesterday and while I found a lot of quasi-doomsday stuff, I could not find a cult link or anything of that nature either. I am wondering how the European press is handling this. It is a rather large exodus, don’t you think? There has to be a motivation–I suggested the Nostradamas fixation as a possible…but I am reminded of the Serbian “Mother Mary” incident that took place before world war 1…

    Yes, things are apparently kicking off into high just about everywhere. NAMASTE is the only answer…So nice to see you again,

    NAMASTE – Marina 9:19am-est-4/3/12 – usa

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  39. @Marina
    You know i like the way you think and write marina. i am not so much surfing in the net anymore due to all the fearspreading infos which are increasing heavily. it brings to many bad impressions to my life and i know what i belive becomes reality in my life…so i stop it and start to think now again in positive terms because that will bring positive events in my life to reality…and all this evil stuff disturbs that. i dont want that anymore, i think you can understand this.
    The french village story i hear a year or so ago. So due to the “save zone” in france i will say it is BS because if a worldwide catastrophy will happen than one of the consequences will be that all nuclear plants will have the same fate as the nuclear plant in fukushima…that means we will have high radiation rates allover our world we live in…well the rest what will happen than you can think for shure for yourself. Think the only way to prevent us from this sadly realistic horrible scenario is to shut down all nuclear plants in the world right now (but greedy interessts of a handful evil people which have also the power to shut them down still stay against this dream)…i am dreaming of that every day and pray that this dream to shut down them will become true before its too late. so i pray for my enemies like jesus told us.
    And nice that you think the same about this honorful greetingform and word namaste..stay safe and the way you are marina.
    Namaste
    Nobody

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