Two Crop Circles refer to important astronomical events in 2012

Crop Circles

Famous Crop Circles in Wayland’s Smithy and East Kennet, England.

Prophecies and expectations.

On May 20, that’s only a few days away, it was painted in 2 Crop Circles in England.

During 2005, on August 9 and then in 2011, on July 22 these Crop Circles appeared that show May 20 as a special date (Annular Solar Eclipse) and also June 6 (The transit of Venus in front of the Sun).

Listen to Fernando Correa…

Related articles:

Annular Solar ‘Ring Of Fire’ Eclipse of May 20, 2012

Transit of Venus across the Sun on June 6, 2012

Source and author:  Crop Circles

62 responses to “Two Crop Circles refer to important astronomical events in 2012

  1. Interesting…

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    • Massif1001

      Very interesting indeed!!!
      If something is really to happen on these dates, Hope you guys will have a Camera ready (on tripod🙂 ) and hope its HD too😛
      Proof could be coming our way….

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  2. Interesting,and this?

    -Ea-Enki and space-

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  3. What do people make of crop circles? I’m not too sure about the legitimacy of these, i think there are some clever people out there who have thought of putting messages together using ancient symbols. I’ve also seen programs on people or groups that go out there and create these designs. Why would they both be in England? However I do believe that some might not be man-made and who knows there could be truth in these messages. I still think something is about to kick off soon.

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    • varakienen

      If you do just s Little research on crop circles you will find that most simply cannot be faked.
      the increased levels of magnetic radiations in the circle, the swollen bend in the nod that has not damaged the plant, where fake circles crush and break the plant. It goes on and on and on. its a science now. and legitimate crop circles researchers can determine a legitimate from a fake within minutes of arriving.
      The size, the accuracy, how little time is taken versus how many days or weeks with even a team of a hundred people.
      Just a little research mate. and the facts already found will astound you.
      ~Varakienen

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  4. Acording to Fernando Correa, it’s more than just solar eclipse… it’s a big alignment between the sun, earth, moon, pleyades star system and the center of the galaxy. I know, nothing is going to happen, but, there must be a reason for the mayans to record something like this, and what’s more, to appear on crop circles. Let’s wait and see..

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  5. William I agree, why is there so much focused on this year, these dates? We can’t all be fooled this much, surely?

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  6. SonicBrain

    check this out , have to do with the subject – http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1577.htm I’m start to think this year really bad things to come …. sad . the Chicago false flag possibility – Olimpic false flag possibility – War on Iran – Fukushima fuel pool to colapse – etc etc etc ….. some how really 2012 may be the end of the world as we know . don’t forget the the SUN and possible Ateroid strike ” classified by US Army ” ugly days we live , and the fall of dollar and euro …. tooo many things , kind stress !!!

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  7. varakienen

    the above dates assumes that these crop circles have been interpreted or translated correctly.
    Do not poo poo the crop circle phenomenon in its entirety because the message is not accurately translated.

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  8. the truth, vara, i think you both are right. Some of these are just accompanied by too many anomalies to just be fakes, yet there are those out there who are faking them for kicks, or to mislead. Just wish whoever is doing them would just call me on my smart phone and let me know exactly what they are supposed to be telling us. If they can make something like this, I’m sure they can get my number. Would really like to hear from them. And everyone, trust me (sure :)), the world will not end in 2012. It has a ways to go yet, at least 10-15 years. Im not saying some baaaaaaaddddd stuff isn’t going to happen, It just isn’t going to “end” (except maybe as we have known it).

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    • Doesnt matter what the fake ones are trying to say so long as we now have the ability to tell the real ones from the fake.
      I live in Alberta, and we get them here too. (tho not as common)
      I have stood in both real and fake.
      And using the formula for determining which is which it is surprisingly Easy to tell the difference in under 15 mins.
      Makes me wonder how people can get it wrong at all.
      My personal favorite was one formed in new snow.
      It was cordoned off by the property owner and only a very distinguishable single set of foot prints walked up to interact with it.
      Now WAY that was faked unless fakers have found away to do the job while levitating.
      Its a You had to Be there kinda deal. It had more detail than most crop circles though this one was much smaller in size. it had begun to melt a bit on the second day that I saw it, but the magnificence of the creation and impossibility was unmistakable.

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  9. oh don’t go round tonight, it’s bound to take your life, theresssssss a bad moon on the rise. Thank you John Fogerty.

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  10. Look!
    Lens flare?

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    • Not a case of lens flare. the real sun is behind the cloud, the smaller so called second sun easily definable to the left, and the flare was moving around all over the place.
      this makes the smaller to the left one a solid definable measurable object.

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  11. Fake or not, we can’t deny the fact that there are a LOT of weird things happening lately- everything from apocalyptic sounds, mass fish and animals dying, significant increase in earthquakes, rivers turning blood red, as well as all the prophets through history- Nostradamus, Mother Shipton, Cayce, etc- all pointing to this time period. The best advice would be to get right with the man upstairs. If nothing happens then you’re not out anything. But if something does happen…I’d rather be on the “rapture” list than the “suffer through the tribulation” list. Just saying.

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  12. May 20th…I will be outside with welders’ mask on looking at the eclipse. Whatever happens, I don’t care…I’m not gonna worry and just take it as it comes. Let all the chickens run around, and as for me, I will just lie in my hammock sipping lemonade and bask in the glow of nukes going off…

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  13. Are you ready..?

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  14. When I became aware of the significance of these dates, I asked Spirit if this is the big day. She replied:”Are you ready..?” I said, “proof, please.” She showed me my very bright lightbody. Been building my lightbody since 1991, but portions of it were stolen by the …archons. They have since been returned.
    Now, if you did not understand what I said, you are in your perfect path. because what is going to happen or not happen is under the control of Spirit.
    The Ego-based mind has no inkling about it.
    Peace,
    J…………

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  15. What do we do when we have triumphed to another, WE rub it in their face. But what they do not understand is, we Know who they are and why they have come. And are coming. The Book of Revelation says, “But he only has but a little while and must make war with the one most high. Pay attention, Dont worry about it, I Love You. Is this not the message Jesus Christ has been telling us for many days…..This may hurt, but only for a little while, and then Paradise. Let them have the Earth and those that refuse the true, that they might be DAMMED. If you cannot see that UFO_Aliens ARE the 1/3 he drew when cast out of Heaven. Rethink the knowledge Lucifer had while he was created and live amongst GOD.

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    • Thats one way to look at it.
      Of course, another way to look at it is that you are as Wrong in your interpretation as Many other are in thier interpretations of how to decipher crop circle messages.
      But dont get me into how inaccurate the bible is in its many re-writings and translations, and we wont have to lure Chuck out of hiding for the next what the bible forgot to tell you fest 2012.
      ~ VARA.

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  16. Naibsel, When I lived in an apartment house their were 5 floors above us, ARE you referring to Jesus Christ. Do not be ashamed, using his NAME will take you farther. Blessings, and Honor, and royalty be Jesus name. When the world is trying so hard to rid his name, you should rejoyce. For they will not.

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  17. vara, my dear, did I miss the fest? I don’t recall you showing me ANYTHING the bible is inaccurate about. Darn. If you showed me and i missed it, please repeat. It will be worth the wait. Nevertheless it is interesting to see everyone’s perspective. surrender. fear, anxiety, no worries, too serious, not serious enough, a large number making think of that painting “the scream” i think it’s called. You know, i see hundreds of mistakes and inaccuracies on this site, but i still cut it some slack and check it out. And i’m reading the originals, not translations or reproductions. So be kind, give the good book a break. Besides, when you appear at the great white throne judgement, I don’t believe your opinion of the bibles accuracy will determine much of your eternal destiny. For the Buddhists, how will did you treat your fellow man. For works-based religions, how many good works did you do. For cults, did you follow the teaching of the enlightened one. For Christianity, one fairly simple question from Jesus…..”who do you say that I am”. Right answer, welcome to the heavenly breezy theme park. Wrong answer. Oops, you have to go to the theme park with no air conditioning. I’m just saying:)

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    • varakienen

      I do believe your manor has changed my dear Chuck.
      Its easy enough to bait you out still, but now when you appear, you do so with cordiality a hint of respect and aplomb.
      This change favors you.
      It Lets people actually listen to what you have to say with out dismissing it for the manor in which it used to be said.
      I guess there’s no point in hashing over old evidences of the bibles mistakes.
      Things as simple as being nailed through the hands instead of the wrists, Being crucified on a post or an Large X rather than an actual cross at the time, isnt all that relevant really. (seriously, just not all that relevant.)
      Celebrating Christs Birth day on the wrong day and in the wrong month, again, simply not relevant.
      I my self live by the spirit of the message rather than the literal wording of the message it self. For that at least I have no problems with the good book.
      When I make my comments, they are always based on the propaganda which the Dead sea scrolls and books were turned into to serve agenda’s of conquering nations at the times of each re-translation and re-write. Never the spirit of the meaning behind the words them selves.
      But Chuck, I almost dislike saying this yet again and again of late…. Well said.😉
      ~ VARAKIENEN.

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  18. some (most) of the crop formations are real, some are not, the ones that are real are being created by forces WE call extraterrestrial or earth energy or whatever, i dont know for sure, but i believe its about, time for us to be waking up as a species and an intelligent universe letting us know, (those who can be bothered to listen, that is,) the formations that are not real are done by a combination of idiots doing it for a “giggle” and goverment sponsered dis-informers.

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  19. After reading some of the posts here I am at a loss to figure out how so many people get so many odd far out thoughts in their heads, especially the religious ones – unbelievable. If crop circles are made by an intelegent species, why the hell don’t they just come on down to Earth and tell us what is on the way? Why all the messing around? I liked the video of the sun with something next to it, but again, if that person could see two suns then why can’t everyone else on the planet? After all we can all see the Moon, so why not that extra whatever it was in the video? So much time, chatter, maybe this, maybe that is wasted by people letting their imaginations run riot. All I want is facts, not wild speculation.

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    • varakienen

      Rock.
      Usually I just tell people to go do thier home work rather than tossing out opinions based on nothing at all.
      But in your case imma gonna help you out here.
      The second sun vid:
      Its NOT a second sun.
      Its a large object very far out on which sun light is being reflected.
      In my Personal opinion it IS an ET craft of rather enormous size.
      It keeps moving but tends to keep a possition relative to being between the earth and the sun, but not Directly between.
      It has been photographed by soho many times as well as several other sun monitoring satilites.
      Some times its there, and some times its Not visible at all.
      Does this mean it cloaks? Moves off and comes back later? I cant say.
      But, there is to much evidence that it IS there and has been for more than a decade on and off.
      Who can say what it Really is?

      Next, the crop circle phenomenon.
      Are YOU an extra terrestrial Rock? No?
      THATS why you cant figure out the answers to your questions.
      You arent them, you dont understand what agenda they may have or why they fulfill this agenda in the manor they have chosen to do so.
      Its not necessarily Meant for every one that can see it.
      Its coded.
      Its sequential.
      what reasons to Humans have in the intelligence community for making things coded even when others can see it?
      Same reasons may well apply for ETs.
      Its meant for certain eyes only.

      I have a personal hypothesis.
      Ive always felt that if they wrote it in plain English the government which does NOT want us knowing about ETs or believing in thier existence would adopt a scorched earth policy.
      They would create entire units that get to such sites within minutes of a formation and burn the crop out before any one can see it.
      While it is coded, and while it can be made to be believed that they are fake. while there is reasonable doubt and plausible deniability, this procedure need not be incorporated. And so, we get to see them rather than mysterious burnt crops.
      If aliens seek to communicate with an individual, or certain individuals, well…. there’s evidence that they do That to. Directly.
      This is probably meant for those whom are willing to take the time, make the effort to actually compare notes and investigate and figure it out.
      Note for those whom arent ready for the reality that they really do exist.
      Lastly, and this I know for a fact, but will not try to offer proof…
      They are Not allowed to make full on public first contact at this time.
      They are not allowed to interfere Directly with us or our culture, or our free will in general. Its not Unlike a prime directive. to an extent.
      And there are more than one race out there with varying agenda’s.
      Be well Rock.
      ~VARAKIENEN.

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      • I think”second sun/Nibiru”huge ET spacecraft outside gold…..Sumerian say 12.planet and Ancient Gods like gold(many mines in africa)……Sumerian maybe was mistaken,its not natural planet….

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      • varakienen

        The Sumerians were in Contact with Aliens.
        Many of thier Rulers were alien and alien hybrids.
        I dont think they were mistaken on the details.

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      • Sorry many youtube videos varakienen…..but look another,its normal/natural?Optical illusions?Interesting…

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  20. Dear bcstix,
    Nice try.
    How about… what I said is
    “just is..” No one rubbing anybody’s nose.
    What if I tell you that there are millions sprinkled around the globe with very very bright lightbodies
    Would that offend you too..?
    How about growing up already..?
    Peace,
    J………

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  21. The thing that’s most interesting me guys is this object spotted near the sun. Look at the thing, why isn’t the news onto this? Why aren’t millions of people questioning this? I understand peopl want to hide things from the public but come on, news travels fast! Any views on this?

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    • varakienen

      Main stream media is privately owned and operated by the same people that Ultimately own the Banks. Its in thier best interests to keep things status quo and keep the general public in the dark.
      Should we find out the truth of a great many things kept from us, thier hold over us will be lost.
      Nasa, like the federal reserve, is not government owned. Most people do Not know that. it gets government funding but the banks own that too.
      See where this is going?
      There is a Reason wall street is being occupied, and if you talk to many of the people on it, they will tell you Just how deep the rabbit hole Goes.
      SO much more of this puzzle is connected by this money through history and its need for control by manipulation possession and secrecy most people simply dont realize.
      ~V.

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  22. Check out this link –
    http://victoriastaffordapsychicinvestigation.wordpress.com/2012/05/15/asteroid-4183-cuno-20-may-2012-5-7-km-wide-earth-distance-0-122-au-sun-distance-0-994-au-earthquakes-volcanoes-flooding-disaster-predictions-southern-oceans-south-east-earth/

    This seems very interesting and realistic, asteroids causing gravitational pull on the Earth’s tectonic plates causing mass earthquakes, reaching Magnitude level 8 and volcanoes and fissures erupting where we thought dormant! Apparently going on for weeks as more than one asteroid passes by earth!

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    • varakienen

      I assure you, little asteroids, even dozens OF them, just dont have the mass to gravitationally increase our situation.
      Unless they are Not asteroids at all, but super massive dense little stellar core fragments.

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  23. Crop circles… what could be the mechanism of their creation? A few minutes review of the harmonic work of Chaldni and for you this part of the mystery would be resolved…will not boar with links or information previously posted.
    Cloaked craft…what could be the mechanism? If I were to strike a middle C note on a piano with sufficient force, all in range may hear, four octives lower or higher with the same force and none will hear. As true as it is with sound, so with matter. To grasp this is to know the third law, all is vibration, the very boundries of 3-space are both defined and trancended in this…Niburu? If you will but for a moment set aside your “science” of light years and gravity and “proofs” you have come to accept, and apply for yourself understanding of this one truth…your questions may change and the answers you seek may be closer than you think…

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    • oh, I DO Like this comment. I do indeed. 😉

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      • hmmm…thought you might…it has been said a question and an answer are as linked as oposite sides of a coin…confusion arises when only one side is seen at a time…so…how does one “see” both sides of a coin at the same time?…worth reflecting on…be well dear one…

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  24. While it will be natural for many to see these dates or in between.. as days of great calamities and possibily so !!….. yet it could be a time when CONTACT on a global scale is made with mass sighting and proof- for the intention of a global rescue plan for the perilious days ahead into the year.

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    • AGREE.
      We dont know What the dates represent at all. It might be some thing important that only becomes appearant Much much later well after the date has come and gone.

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  25. @The Truth, This mystery object is not new. It surfaced on the net in 2011 & i took a photograph through a digital camera during noon time also did post it on this site. This object is not likely to be nibiru. According to my knowledge Nibiru is a planet which travels clockwise on its own orbit increasing it’s speed as it approaches, yet to cross or pass by our solar system from south. But this so called second sun has been there on the same spot only visible from some areas without any time frame. For the lack of our knowledge in alien matters, it is almost impossible for us to conclude on what this object may be. And by the way do you think nasa or any other government agencies will open their mouth and let these things go out to masses ??

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  26. Massif1001

    @ zehuti
    Very interesting indeed!!!
    If something is really to happen on these dates, Hope you guys will have a Camera ready (on tripod🙂 ) and hope its HD too😛
    Proof could be coming our way….

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  27. Varakienen – you have earned my full respect. You gave informative and wise answers to my post. I believe there is much occurring around us and the time will come when the people of the World see for themselves we are not alone.

    I have always thought that space is full of ET life, I just wish they would make contact and help out our troubled World soon. After all, Governments are making a real mess of everything and feed us a diet of lies and misinformation. I get so sick of all their crap.

    Once again, full respect Varakienen!

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  28. SonicBrain

    go a litle bit out of this subject BUT …NIBIRU talk talk is back on the web — thinking heads what do u think about this info here http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/05/17/it-is-official-wise-telescope-confirms-nibiru-a-rogue-planet-outside-of-neptune-and-uranus/ will be nice if THIS SITE bring some new light on Nibiru based on the info in the link above and plus new discovery if there are one – PLUS , IMPORTANT maybe have something to to with Nibiru , something hit Earth from behind and can’t be the SUN ! and there a missing NASA data on this day , also the Japanese site and others … !!! and here we go again … ! ?

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    • varakienen

      sigh. 6 or more vids at near 2 hours each. some junk, some new. thankfully Ive already seen most of them else where.
      where to start, where to start. :/

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  29. SonicBrain

    Here is the NASA missing data I mention above – http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jUdz670o3-Q

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  30. Before reading on, please be open minded and hear me out. These are all based on my speculation only. No proof of any kind. And NOTHING i post here are FACT.
    What if these crop circles are really man made? no, i dont mean by using sticks and strings. i mean, what IF they were man made by using advanced tech that only certain people know about. And the purposed of these crop circles are actually messages to the elites all around the world and also to the elites that are not presently on earth. (Huh? Not on earth??) And the crop circle symbols are made specifically for them. And only they know what it means, and laughing their arse off at all of us ’cause we know squat. What if all the ufo’s that were seen around the world, were actually built on earth, by humans (Dude, get real and lay off the bong..). Yea, i know what you’re thinking, but bare with me, please.
    Check out this link: http://www.galactic-server.net/rune/ralphring.html
    (erm, i dont know how to post a link..)
    The site talks about a person that claims to be involved (not personally) in having successfully made, operate; and fly a privately made ufo towards the end of 1950’s.
    So, lets just say that this is a possibility and that the Elites have ‘ufos’ at their disposal and have perfected the technology.

    They start abducting people for genetic research, mind control and so on. The purpose? To genetically modify or to create a being that looks alien. In other words, make space alien.
    So whats the purpose of the aliens that they have made? False Flag attack? Maybe..
    I didn’t know about false flag attack, only until recently. There are so many sites saying that during the olympics, there will be a false flag attack (wont post ant link). The British Government are turning London into a militerized zone in preparation for the Olympic Games. Please refer to the link below:
    http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/london-is-turning-into-a-highly-militarized-police-state-in-preparation-for-olympic-games/
    (like i stated, i dont know how to post a link, so i dont know if you can click on in, or not).
    There are also sites that are saying that the Elites are planning to nuke the olympics!

    (please help me out here..)
    The you tube video was made by Private Eye. They explained that movies about ELE (2012, Armageddon, etc) are actually hints on what the Elites are planning, and nuking the Olympics is their next move. Another video was made by Vandetta. They too say that nuke is coming.
    Are you readers getting my drift? Just connect the dots, right? Elite has ufo – Elite has Aliens – False Flag Attack rumours – Military deployed in London – Olympics gonna get nuked… I got it!
    The Elites got ufos on their hands and are planning to start an invasion during the olympic games! They will blow up the stadium and kill everyone in London! Then the world will unite as one, giving Emergency Powers to Chancellor Palpetine! He will be Emperor of the Galactic Empire, with Darth Obama by his side! Yess!!
    Oh, wait, that cant be right.. What about this link:
    http://pigs-in-the-parlor.blogspot.com/2009/06/rik-clay-2012-olympics-interesting.html
    Everything about the Olympics says “Illuminati”. Erm, so they are gonna blow themselves up? I’m confused… Wrong! Well, part of it anyways. It’s what they want YOU to BELIEVE.
    Private Eye and Vandetta (new illuminati), (yes, its the same creator for a youtube link posted by vara, which he said to make “viral” somewhere on this site. If i’m mistaken, i apologize to vara if i got it wrong) are disinformation sites. (my personal opinion).
    So much info about the elite, the bombing of the olympics, ufo sightings on the rise and much much more. Do any of think that nothing goes by without them knowing it? Do you think they will let exposed any info that are critical to their plans for world domination? Why will there be military during the olympics?
    Think.
    Here’s what i think.
    The Olympics is a ritual/ceremony for the Elites. Having so many symbols there, means that it will be a very important event to them. (They also have one-eyed alien looking mascot, sheesh!) All the top Elites will be there, hence, the militarized zone. Military will be there to protect the Elites from (aliens?), no, from anti-Elite people/groups. They want as little outsiders there as possible. Thats the purpose of disinformation sites. Fear of bombings will minimise outsiders from joining their celebration.
    So whats next? We do know that there might be a false flag invasion, the Elite wants power granted to them and to eradicate 90% of the population.
    I said that Olympics is a ritual/ceremony, but it could also be a welcoming committee. They could be welcoming the person most feared on earth, the False Messiah (Luke Skywalker). And pursuing him will be ‘enemy aliens’ that starts to attack everywhere, EXCEPT the Olympics stadium (’cause all the military are there to protect everyone in the stadium, including the False Messiah). Then powers are granted, aliens are defeated, False Messiah shows amazing miracles, False Messiah (Master Jedi Luke Skywalker) becomes the new leader in our “A New Beginning” (age of Zion?). Bla, bla, bla…
    I know my story is far fetched, but i’m asking of you all (especially varakienen, chuck, luke, marina and jay (thought you were a guy)) to check out all the links (help with the links please admin), to open you mind, remember back to your religious teachings, all the info that you have gathered throughout the years and ask to yourself “Is This Possible?” I don’t think that my story is anywhere near perfect, but i really do feel that its very close. If my assumptions are wrong, or any of the links i provided are false facts, please be kind enough to elaborate. And please dont ask me to do my homework, as i dont have the resources to carryout that task. It took me 3min just to fully load TTBTS on my newly bought 1.6ghz celeron laptop.
    I’m relying on all of you here.
    Thanks and Be Well.

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    • varakienen

      No apology needed Rod.
      I my self questioned the validity of the source of the link.
      It was an (supposedly) Anonymous link, in which they claim to have hacked information about aliens and government connections to aliens and were going to Give us Full disclosure, where the government would not.
      I have No problem with making such a thing viral even if its fake.
      For one thing, I have an inside person whom told me that it was done to Rattle cages in the government and begin the steps to MAKE them disclose.
      To which I argued, all it would do is step UP their time table in going through with an alien false flag event.
      Any ways, No apologies necessary.
      —————-
      I my self have pondered the notion that crop circles may be man made with stolen reverse engineered alien tech…
      But it just doesn’t fit. The ONLY fit I have found is if its part of the false flag operation and its a way of getting people to believe in aliens with out actual disclosure.
      Unfortunately, some of the messages arent right for such a project if man made.
      The butterfly man for example among many indeed.
      The butterfly man tells that we are reaching an evolutionary juncture in our development, and that we will become some thing…. More.
      This is Absolutely Opposite any thing that the Illuminati would want us knowing. They want to keep us in the dark, in fear, in racial and religious hatred etc, to keep our vibrations low and on the negative.
      I have found that only higher vibration out comes come from genuine crop circles. Thus to me, it doesn’t fit that they may be man made.
      Be well.
      ~VARAKIENEN

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      • “The butterfly man tells that we are reaching an evolutionary juncture in our development, and that we will become some thing…. More.”

        What if its not really to become something? Could it not mean to free ourselves from the false illusions that constantly hinders us from observing what is? To throw of every single condition by understanding it, not becoming or overcoming it because that is what we have been doing for several thousands of years; but to truly understand the significance of our minds and the environment which it constantly reacts to and thus lives with its own created conflict. So to go right through and beyond the root, observing without the observer, experience without the experiencer, what is the actual truth of what we are, to truly see and listen, means to take responsibility for all mankind and on that journey of understanding oneself return to our timeless original and unconditional freedom – which is to enter the realm of infinity.
        Have we not been following dogma and theories for several thousands of years, in the latter age the mere intellectual concept of evolution? Which means we are merely following words, an idea that exists in our knowledge, memory; and memory, thought, is always of the past – to live in the past is to be static, dead. We are so bound and tormented by the bondage of the creation we call time, and that which is static is restricted, that our minds are shattered in fragments by its own chains. Thus, not alive and free, not unrestricted and timeless, endless. There is always this becoming, to always have a fixed point, ideal, to become into a culmination; thus it has etched itself into the environment we have created, and the environment has created the “I”, the self-consciousness, and so it also exists in our memory, deep embedded through generations upon generations in the racial culture and all of its murdering traditions of several millenniums.
        Could it not be that we, individually, must take responsibility for all the misery that happens about the World then? For all the outward expressions, which is our inward struggle, that breeds this great chasm between us? To take responsibility for the Earth, for all mankind, which is our selves, and radically step out of all the imposed conditioning and deny every authorities forced, even deliberately, upon our minds so that we can understand ourselves totally, deep and clear; not as a fragment, not as an ideal or as a mere illusionary thought, but to understand ourselves as we are actually, without judgment of any kind, without condemning or justifying. The part is never the whole, in the lesser the greater is not – though, in the greater, the lesser is. So if we look upon it freshly, Why is it that we always must become something?

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  31. Rod, that is absolutely crazy but a great film script😉 I think you have some very realistic and interesting ideas on crop circles though, maybe they are man-made and messages to outerspace/crafts in visitation.
    To Varakienen, I take your point of view on news being hidden from the public but I don’t think even the higher powers have the full power to control mass news. If hundreds/thousands spot something like ufo’s flying all over or strane phenomena near the sun, it would leak out to social networks/youtube/local news/regional news. I’m not trying to say what you state is wrong, just I find it hard to accept. I’m just trying to understand.
    Cheers!

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    • varakienen

      You are correct.
      They DO have absolute control of mainstream media, including Most but not all local news networks.
      And… shit Does leak out on internet.
      Im not sure where you are seeing a contradiction in as much as it already exists.
      But internet is often subjective in that it does not reach every one, but Every one must reach out for It.
      When you turn your internet on the only automatic news up dates that usually come on are from like fire fox and yahoo etc, which are still owned by main stream media and thus still controled.
      You literally have to go and seek some thing or trust a friend to inform you with Real news that is blocked or media blacked out else where.
      For instance, did you know that there is an impeachment bill in the senate to impeach Obama?
      Its as big as water gate for nixon in the 70s, but No media outlet will cover it. There are warrants waiting to be signed to arrest and detain former presidents. (which are unlikely ever to be signed because the desks they sit on are judges that are Owned.)
      Not all the details and news’s denied you are of alien nature. But they are absolutely every one of them connected!
      ~ VARAKIENEN.

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  32. SonicBrain

    Rod – you are a thinking head , and I think you have something here … makes sense … if we back to the nazi time , they was trying do develop UFO since that days , than with the end of WWII project paper clip toke a good number of..dark side scientist’s and you put the TESLA USA technology and BINGO UFO ! …. but the only question isssss …. how about the UFO phenomena on ancient times , and the huge ones seeing near the Sun in our time ? …well , I thing the 2 may be real ..about false flag of alien invasion it’s simple , if happen and our governments start to shut down UFOs and capture aliens and show at CNN , IT’S BECAUSE IT’S FAKE , no way humans army can defeat thousands ” if millions of technology ahead ” …..NOW , what I think , just my personal thinking based in some research here and there , MAY 20 Sunday maybe happen a second Japan tsunami , but this time will go to USA …. and I think will be a man made by nukes under the sea targeting the USA coast on the pacific , using the annular eclipse and Nostradamus prophecy plus the crop circles to conect as a cause and blame the ” destiny ” better take a trip far from the coast on this day , go away , go trip ! get away from the pacific coast ! … and if nothing happen …. ? I’ll be sooooo happy that all BS on the net it’s wrong !!! ….just in case get out from Chicago and Denver also , the doom conspiracy have this 2 in the top of list ! …. and sometimes , conspiracy , if can call it , get right ….. so , just in case , go for drive , whatever … I’m very stressed with all this possibilities …. too many dates and this and that may happen , dates to look out – may 20/21. annular eclipse ( Big Earthquake ). June 5/6 Venus RETROGADE passing the Sun ( Solar Flare ) July during the Olimpic ( false flag terrorist attack – option 2 Alien BS attack ) November 13 ” if the day is right , not sure now ” but November Eclipse ( reversal pole – big quake – solar flare – the 3 days of darkness happen on this day cause Earth stop it’s rotation , not in dec 21 – Dec 21 – …… !?? again , I’m saying this will happen , and I hope anything of this happen BUT , it’s what sites on the net and youtubers have being working on for a good time , it’s a resume of what I have researching from others people work .. and I still also thinking in my personal view that , … we gonna have a impact of a asteroid in some point … that is the bunkers are for … and all this rich people also buying a private bunkers …. something it’s coming … and they know … high contacts but not aloud to go government bunkers … ok , this is it , and I think I need a break of all this dooms possibilities … I gonna put my coin only for evidence from may 20/21 .. but keep prepared for the unknow just in case . stressonicbrain .

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    • varakienen

      Sonic. Please dont put your trust in Dates.
      Especially where events that we can recognize as important may occur.
      There’s no guarantee that any thing that we can watch for or understand will happen on these dates, assuming the dates are correct to begin with.
      For all we know, certain crop circles may be saying that a conjunction in space will allow a worm hole to open for easier transportation.
      Which will have no immediate visible effect to us at all yet still be important to out future in some way.
      We wont see it, we wont understand it, we cant measure or record it, but it still happens and still has relevance.
      Just stay off of dates. Dont feed the hype, much of which is dissinformation any how.
      ~ VARAKIENEN

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  33. SonicBrain

    CORRECTION – I’m NOT saying this will happen . it’s what the net research comes out . time to take a break . SonicPain .

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  34. There’s been shit loads of earthquakes over the past week over magnitude 5, am I right in seeing nothing of that magnitude so far today. I find that a bit strange, maybe calm before the storm, before a huge earthquake erupts an causes a tsunami? Getting close to the 20th!

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  35. SonicBrain

    Vara – I agree and disagree – I agree about too many hoax predictions out there . BUT , the Universe and almost every thing and every main events in this planet are shaped BY NUMBERS . The numbers play a lot – in Special for the Dark Side ” the rulers of this world ” and their rituals blood sacrifice , also the high force that manipulates the puppets play by numbers – there is no COICIDENCE , the dates are chosen when “man made event ” don’t you know that ? ! But in reference to any religious leader who come and say the day of – harmagedon , or the choose one who gonna be taken to heaven or space ship . hoooo YES , this is a BS !

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    • varakienen

      we think alike.
      And in fact I agree with absolutely every point you brought up.
      Here in lies the problem tho.
      The final sum of any math equation is dependent on the the formula fed into it.
      Many mathematical formula’s have variables to them that are overlooked, go unseen, are unpredictable, have been purposely altered or distorted.
      We have to be able to START the equation with the correct numbers to get an accurate out come.
      And in Oh So many cases we simply cannot be 100% sure that our numbers to begin with are correct.
      As an example, calculation of dates in time.
      Our own system of calculating time has been altered repeatedly through out history but most people do not know it.
      Even the ones in the know are not sure how much and exactly when Every single time adjustment was made and by how much.
      Then you have things like events which often historicly represent time thrown into the equation. Such as Christs Birth day.
      December 25th? I think not. Google Christs Birthday and the word Saturn at the same time, you’ll get my point there.
      We also have things like Leap years. Inacurate responses to dealing with variables which figure into long term calculations.
      Even the procession of the Equinox cannot be calculated precisely.
      As we as a solar system pass by other external gravitational and magnetic forces within that 26,000-ish year cycle which influence tragectories speeds and courses to a degree which our calculations cannot accurately forsee.
      We cannot thus tell exactly Whe to start our calculations, and thus have an altered end sum with out even knowing it.
      Dont even Get me started on how time is effected in and of it self by gravitational forces. the further you get away from earth the more time varies. the further you go out side the solar system, More so. This is already documented and provable.
      These points were made to demonstrate a point. Sure we have reasonable accurate means of telling time. even the Mayans did.
      But its simply not 100 % accurate unless every and ALL variables can be accounted for. And we simply cannot be assured that we always Have all such variables taken into account.
      We cannot be sure of it for man made events. and we cannot be sure of it for astronomical ones. We can only do our best. 😉
      Do you follow my reasoning?
      But yes. I still agree with you on your points.
      Be well.
      ~VARAKIENEN.

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      • varakienen

        Here’s an oddity.
        I took 3 different IQ tests yesterday.
        Since my cold of recent has ended I could swear I literally Feel smarter. am having insights into things I never considered before. Am thinking faster and clearer.
        The test rsults show me on average a 10 point increase. (actually, but dont tell my Ego, it thinks anally in rounded 10’s. sshhhh lol )
        So what is it? change of diet? change of life habbits?
        Junk DNA waking up for the big event?
        I dunno. Just thought it deserved an honorable mention.
        (Shrugs curiously)
        ~ VARAKIENEN.

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      • …what a supprise…!!!

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  36. wow. can’t say it was boring. Vara, understand your frustration, but being creatures of time, it’ nigh impossible for us to not want to put a date on everything. And taking all the variables into consideration (as if we actually know all the variables) that may effect time and consequent events, these events will still happen to us in our “time”. Even prophets, of all stripes, often issue prophecies that are to occur at certain “times”(though most cover themselves with obfuscations or purposefully giving vague info). Just saying that seeing as how we think “in time”, then it’s quite normal to focus on time. I do admire some peoples recuperative powers( not referring to you vara, tho i am glad you’re feeling better). Are we into Nibiru again? Thought this was happening last year. It didn’t come (did I miss it?). So now, after a breather we go back to it again. I guess if we keep bringing it up every few months, eventually we will be right. And I just can’t, as I’ve shared before, buy into hundreds of thousands or even millions of people being in on a giant cover up. Ever heard of Daniel Ellsberg? Pentagon papers? It only takes one. There was recently a story of someone leaking the details of some cia-military mission that only involved a small number of individuals, maybe one or two dozen. Guess what? Someone talked. Now, you all know i’m no lover or truster of the govt., media, etc. But to believe that no one at all is talking about any of dozens of so-called secrets, conspiracies, etc. is just not reasonable. Just reread “the rise and fall of the third reich”. Man, was Hitler one evil vicious, violent thug. Yet even though everyone, by the early 40’s, knew this about him, especially his closest associates, generals, etc, and they knew he would have them killed without hesitation, some not only spied on and betrayed him, others tried to kill him. Have we changed that much in 70 years? Has no one the gall to stand up and shout “there’s a cover-up going on here”? Don’t know. Just hard to swallow. Again, vara, congratulations on getting better, and discovering the secret to becoming a genius. Just keep getting sick. Wonder if you can put that in pill form. Just thinking.

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  37. To Rod: Giving u Thumb up with the research! Kinda agree with ur thinking here. About the corp circles maybe related to illuminati aka NWO top secret technologies. All this events done by humans aka secet govt works planned to make us believe and in fears that there’s we not alone. My theories is some disaster due to HAARP which is trying to played GOD! Indeed that planned did worked to manipulate our mind! (Shud we cover our head with alluminium foil? Just like movie in SIGN) About the Olympics false flag, I think it is twisted plans. Instead of bombing the london, the plans maybe jeopardy outside london. Meaning WW3 will begins? Thanks. Have a great day ahead.

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  38. Funny you guy’s mention nukes! If you all remember several years ago a B-52 bomber was loaded with and flew from Minot Afb-to-Barksdale Afb. With live nuclear tipped cruise missles. These were the missles the russians were all upset at George Bush about-because we developed them and built them. First-there is absolutely no way these missles were were loaded on a B-52 without the president and his tops generals approval? Secondly there are airforce regulations about flying across the country with live nuclear ordnance? And lastly the aircraft sat on the strip at Barksdale for possibly 24hrs before a crewman who was walking past noticed the ordnance! What was the creepy part of the story was that the airforce could never a number of the weapons that were on the plane? They went from six to nine??? Then it was swept under the rug! I’m former military-the clearance and regulations on handling these is so strict-it wasn’t an accident! Also when the dust settled alot of us vet’s “the ones I know” began to realize-someone-with high clearance made off with 1 or 2 or more of these! It never made sense and still doesn’t! But if you have a rogue element with access and an airforce fearing total embarrasment-then you have missing nuclear weapons. And not little ones either! So there maybe the nukes you guys are talking about. Just a guess on my part! I have seen whole bases locked down and turned upside down over a misplaced rifle!

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